Hello, not a believer however fascinated by it from an anthropological viewpoint.

Hello, not a believer however fascinated by it from an anthropological viewpoint.

Was interested by potions and their scientific validation. I’ve heard that proof has proven the assumption of “Witches” flying on broomsticks could have come from a drug used utilized on broomsticks that had been rubbed on nether areas would trigger the particular person to hallucinate that they had been flying. Was curious if there have been different tales like this with potions having scientifically confirmed (non-placebo) results.

7 thoughts on “Hello, not a believer however fascinated by it from an anthropological viewpoint.”

  1. There are many stories I’ve heard over the years of potions or herbs that had “magickal” properties that also had some medical efficacy. Various teas and tinctures containing cinnamon, Eucalyptus, lavender, rosemary, garlic, elderberry, St Johns Wort, Skullcap, etc and various fermented beverages. There has been over a hundred thousand years (evidence says more than 300k) of experimentation that has gone into man discovering the effects of certain medical benefits and recipes, and magick has long been tied with medicine, sometimes indistinct. Many medications today consist of components synthesized from known effective natural components. There is even evidence that some animals will alter their diet when sick, opting for bitter plants that contain more tannins or alkaloids, and some herbalists have claimed to have learned from observing animals: considering that we use animal testing for drugs and cosmetics, this doesn’t at all seem unlikely.

    I think it makes sense that a culture that doesn’t quite understand the intricacies of anatomy, pharmacology and biochemistry, could eventually discover certain truths yet attribute them entirely as magick. Most pagans who practice a craft believe that natural forces are inherently magickal, so to many of us, anything natural that works would be inherently valuable also in magicks. It is not exactly a coincidence that some magick potions may have medical efficacy.

  2. The broomstick stereotype comes from some guy in like 1200 AD who was witnessing a Beltaine ritual. They would jump as high as they could to tell their crops how high to grow. He thought they were trying to fly.

    The ointment on the nether regions might have worked for women but I interpret that just as a stereotype blown out of proportion

  3. Yes! Those ointments are called flying ointments.
    In superstition they were said to be made of baby’s fat and the nightshade plants, that’s only half true. They were made with pigs fat because it absorbs into the skin quickly.
    See, the nightshades are deadly. Such as “deadly nightshade,” or atropa belladonna. If these are eaten and ingested they can and will kill you. Other plants in the nightshade family like I believe the potato and tomato are safe but do contain certain toxic parts.
    These plants have toxic chemicals which can have a psychoactive effect. Belladonna, henbane, mandrake, and datura are used for ointments from the nightshade family. Another plant that used to be used but was later discovered it only poisons and paralyzes, aconite. They can be applied to the bridge of the nose and the forehead, the armpits, back of the neck, your back, soles of the feet. Always do a test patch on your upperarm first. It’s not recommended, but some people put it on their eyelids and lips, and their genitals. Only do that once you know your safe, I believe some of them aren’t meant to go on the genitals. Mandrake ointment can be used in sex magic though. Not only are these ares very sensitive and have many large pores (biggest on your soles) but they have spiritual accommodations as well. The feet for traveling into the otherworld, armpit and back for wings, genitals for “arousal” and sexual addition in power, the back of the neck connecting to the spine and “world tree.” On the forehead it can be applied about where the third eye would be.
    Witches would also put some flying ointment on their broom and rub it on their coochie, but there’s no documentation of penetration. They would use these ointments to leave their body and fly. Into their fetch, or astral body, all the names. In this form they can fly to the witches’ sabbath or shapeshift into animals such as the hare or toad. This is a completely spiritual experience, there’s no physical shape shifting.
    I’ve used some of the ointments. Henbane and belladonna so far. I use them along with smoking weed and it works very well, especially belladonna.
    The plants can also be used medically. Anti inflammatory. Don’t use if you have heart problems or are allergic to morphine or opioids. I saw belladonna was used to help carpal tunnel syndrome.
    Sarah Anne Lawless is pretty well known for her flying ointments and their potency.
    These are all about their psychoactive effects and altering your mindset. These nightshades can be used, as well as things like marijuana, LSD, and psilocybin mushrooms.
    It’s not some hardcore drug that makes you trip, nothing like that. Just altering you enough that spirit flight is easier.

  4. Look into ethnobotany and cunning folk. Ethnobotany is an entire field of science based on learning traditional medicines of various cultures and developing them into pharmaceuticals. Cunning folk were the people who practiced low magic (folk healing, removing or placing curses, divination, etc) during the so-called “burning times” and yet they rarely persecuted for witchcraft… One of the leading academic theories is that cunning folk were too useful to their community to be persecuted during witch hunts.

  5. I haven’t personally done scientific studies but I’ve just started getting into potions. I haven’t got a recipie for that flying ointment but i think I want it!
    Potions definitely have certain effects depending on what you put in them.

  6. You miss out on too many things in life when you decide to narrow your experience of the world with a scientific paradigm. The universe is too interesting to only explore the obvious side XD

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