Real query

Real query

I am positive it will little doubt come off condescending, or like I’m someway laughing, however I guarantee you this can be a real query out of curiosity.

Why do folks observe witchcraft? I imply I’ve a number of pals who observe it (therefore why I am ), and have even tried myself. Not one of the spells ever do something and it appears as if it is as religion primarily based as any mainstream faith. Like I can do any ritual or any spell that guarantees to provide a sure consequence, and every time the consequence is identical: nothing. Why do folks assume magic really works? If it actually did, would not the world be lots crazier? Spells that summon demons, methods to kill folks in loopy methods, methods to make meals develop in barren locations, and so forth.

It simply appears that none of it’s actual to me, and even my lifelong working towards pals admit that you could’t really actually get outcomes from a spell, and that it is extra only for the enjoyable of the observe and the spirituality.

So why precisely do folks really observe this?

11 thoughts on “Real query”

  1. Why do people pray, or follow any religion? It *is* faith-based. The results you’re thinking of are totally different to the results we believe we get – and the results we *do* get. Have you heard of the placebo affect? Or you know how praying when things are tough really does make things easier to deal with? Doing a spell to help you through tough times has the same effect. Those are the effects that are undeniable – just like how taking a shower or opening the curtains makes you feel better.

    Then there are the “magical” effects. Doing a money spell doesn’t put money directly into the bank account, it just adjusts your chances. Maybe something you normally buy is suddenly on sale, so you save £1 or two. Maybe it’s easier to get a job – but you still have to apply for one. Magic doesn’t change the way the world works – it works within that, and helps where it can. That’s the faith-based reason, and you can take it or leave it. I’m not trying to change your worldview, just explain mine.

  2. I’m a very blunt person so here’s my take, no fluff. This is not towards you, this is my general take on a very important cluster of issues you have sort of highlighted that center around why some people don’t take us seriously. Offering this to help out, mostly

    In our defense, a lot of us do not come from magical traditions and we are self-taught. There are aspects of “magic” that get learned and passed down through lineages that help form a collective of knowledge that helps practitioners grow and conceive result

    But I don’t think many people, especially novices, know what it takes. There are limits to it. It’s not get a rich quick scheme (and be thankful it’s not). It’s not unlimited. It’s not always easy, either. It’s tinkering with stuff you cannot see and in a way to benefit you.

    I do get a little annoyed when I see people trying to peddle this like a fashion statement “what are witchy ways to do x” or trying to act as though just because we’re practicing something similar we must be family and on the same exact page and wavelength with the same beliefs and perceptions and we’re not different people with our own thoughts and feelings. I have no problem with disagreement, at all, but erasure is worse in my opinion

    If your spell did not work, it was either shit to begin with, not needed, not planned out well enough, you did not know what you were doing, or you haven’t developed enough talent to do it right – a mixture, maybe more.

    If you want to cultivate this in a right way, it would be a good idea to talk to a lot of people. Think and contemplate things very deeply. Try not to take stuff at face-value.

    Develop the divination talent you have. Divination is such a wonderful thing. It’s honestly so wonderful. It can save you a lot of time, money, and energy if you know how to do it and you know what you’re doing. Is a spell even needed? Will the situation resolve without you interfering? Some other important things to think about.

    I honestly just feel like this needs to be said and addressed. Variance is okay and celebrating your power can be great but some aspects of this hurt all of us

  3. Magick is weird – you have to be consistent and precise when casting a spell but then back off and pay attention to the very broad ways in which it might manifest in your life. And it might not manifest when you were intending for it to happen, or in the exact way you wanted it to, so it may seem like it didn’t work. And it’s still possible it might not have worked at all.

    Magick is an exercise in intention, trial and error, and paying attention. It’s definitely something that tests patience and belief.

  4. Like you mentioned, reasons vary. However, since you’re asking about personal opinions this is mine…

    For me, witchcraft has been a very complex thing to understand. I personally needed to learn to separate witchcraft from religion. Doing this has enabled me to fully comprehend where one begins and the other ends, not to mention motivations for doing any of it.

    Witchcraft to me personally is all about realigning my intentions/goals/habits and ‘forcing’ myself into certain results. For example, I’ve done some study recently on Hearth Craft and Green Witchcraft. I’ve always been the kind of person that struggles with keeping my space neat and tidy. Well, embracing witchcraft (in this case hearth craft) has helped me align my actions with my intentions. I treat my space as sacred, but I also clean my sacred space now. If I don’t tidy up every single day, I get irritated. Is that witchcraft? To some people it is.

    Another aspect of witchcraft I’ve learned to take note of is what your friends are more than likely talking about: spirituality. I believe that most religions have general knowledge and then hidden knowledge. I’m someone that connects better to themes of hidden knowledge and it does transform into witchcraft. This realization has shaped my practice immensely. Witchcraft allows me, through intention, to better myself. Know thyself. As an example, I’m recently understanding how the religion I grew up in has much more symbolism than I was taught. This has helped me in the religious and spiritual departments of my life.

    But, in general, I think the real power of witchcraft comes from stories, mythologies, and changing consciousness. I really do believe that witchcraft largely, was an earlier understanding of psychology. The rituals and practices probably taught us (as people) how to better ourselves while likewise understanding the world in which we live. That can seem like magic/witchcraft at times. I mean, imagine the first group of people who learned that some poisons can be tolerated through slow doses of said poison (note not a doctor… don’t do this!). The first person that managed to simply ‘eat’ that poison and survive was ‘magical’ or ‘blessed’ or what have you. Today we understand these teachings better. But still, that doesn’t mean it isn’t any less magical.

    Don’t know if this helps at all… but thought I’d open the door to hopefully more comments for you. 🙂

  5. You’re asking a massive, and equally important, question, for which I thank you. Questions like yours absolutely need to be asked and answered.

    I admit the best I can give you is my own opinion, founded on my own experience, practice, and research of witchcraft and the like. I hope that will suffice.

    First, and perhaps most importantly, you’ve already somewhat answered your own question in the last bit of your post. Much, though not all, of witchcraft aims to sate a certain thirst for ritual/liturgy/spirituality we possess as humans. This, in turn, resonates with our psyche, which is where (IMO) magic lives and breathes. Human consciousness (collective or otherwise) is…enormous and, to some degree, unreachable. Perhaps witchcraft is one way of brining oneself closer to that distant shore along sea of the unconscious mind.

    Second, witchcraft just works. No, not all the time. Maybe not even most of the time. But when it does, it really does. I believe it’s a product of simple, unfaltering faith. Faith in what? The spell? Oneself? I can’t answer that, nor do I believe anyone really can. Again, there’s much we don’t understand beyond the world we can perceive with our basic five senses. As for the sixth, YMMV.

    My point? People practice witchcraft because they practice witchcraft. For varying reasons, sure, but ultimately because they *just do*. Perhaps that’s too easy an answer, but it’s the best I have and what I honestly believe.

    TL;DR — Witchcraft works with the unconscious mind and unbridled human faith. People employ it because they choose to.

    Thanks again for your query. Be well!

  6. There are four rules of magic that you must follow if you want a spell to work:

    * To know
    * To will
    * To dare
    * Silence

    You must know what you want to do. You must work your will for the spell. You must dare to do it, and dare the spell to work. Then do not speak of it.

    Any one person who thinks that the spell will not work will instantly break it. One person is all it takes. This is why people always say that you can’t tell what you wished for when you blow out your birthday candle.

  7. I’m only speaking for myself here, but Witchcraft is about spells & results. If you’re putting together ingredients and not getting results you might be crafting, but you’re not casting spells, or practicing Witchcraft, or Magick in the slightest. Witchcraft is not a spiritual path; it’s about putting certain ingredients together, in a certain fashion, and getting results; it has very little to do with having faith. There are religions that use Witchcraft as part of their practice, and *those* are spiritual paths, but they are not (strictly speaking) Witchcraft.

    People think that Magick works because it does. If you are a person who has a natural affinity toward practicing Magick, or are raised into a culture/ family where it’s a common practice, or devout enough to study it under someone who knows what they are doing, or dedicates themselves to learning it from books & trial and error you will be able to practice Magick & Witchcraft quite successfully (with a great deal of study, practice, introspection, and a myriad of other prerequisites that all require no small effort). Why anyone would think that directing the forces of the universe would be easy and only requires mimicking some motions or mixing some herbs never ceases to astound me.

    Would the world be a crazier place if Magick really worked? Nope. Magick really does work and the world is exactly as it is. Just because you’re not getting measurable results does not mean there is no Magick. You might never be able to go into your kitchen and whip up a gourmet meal without breaking a sweat, but someone with enough knowledge, experience, and practice at it can.

    It seems to you that none of it is real because you don’t live in the “Magick World”. You’re not steeped in it. You don’t study it or dedicate decades of your life to its teachings and practice. I’m not surprised at all that you don’t believe in it because you have no experiences with it. If I were you I wouldn’t believe in it either; it would sound foreign & preposterous. If you believed in it unquestioningly with no proof whatsoever you would be a fool.

    As for your friends who are life-long practitioners of Witchcraft and never get results all I can say is: That’s *not* Witchcraft. It might be an admiration for Witchcraft. It could be play-acting Witchcraft. It might be crafting teas, dolls, pillows, baths, wreaths, brooms, etc, but it’s definitely not actual Witchcraft. To practice Witchcraft you must first be able to practice Magick. To practice Magick you must first unlearn all that you have learned and see the world through new eyes. You must learn it’s workings and qualities anew, otherwise when you go to practice Witchcraft you’re just mixing things together in vain.

    People practice Witchcraft because they’re called to it. It’s not something they do, it’s someone whom they are.

    Hope that clears it up.

  8. i just came in to say adding fertilizer to “barron land” may look like magic to someone who can’t farm…but i mean maybe this was said 50.000 years too late.
    (don’t believe in magic, make it)

  9. Reasons do vary, but generally you are correct there is an amount of faith involved. This is not Sabrina the Teenage Witch, there is no purple cloud happening, there are no sparkles, nothing levitates (when I do it). Some people practice what they think is magick out of desperation, or boredom. I can only imagine how many young people across the western world think they are practicing magic when they repeat things that they see on Supernatural, Cardcaptor Sakura, Fullmetal Alchemist, or Charmed. It’s not a recipe for sourdough bread, you don’t just go print out a spell for something serious off of Wiccans.net (idk if thats a thing) and expect it to come out the same way. It take some personal involvement in the ritual, it takes some investment into planning and putting meaning into it and into understanding why you’re doing different things in the ritual. It also has to do with your intention. What are you planning what do you want to happen. You’re very likely not going to get results if you cast a spell to pass your grade with straight A’s when you’ve been getting D minuses all year and it’s the last week of school.

    So many young people perform Hollywood magic expecting Hollywood results. A lot of ritual you see in real and Hollywood magic are based in visual, aesthetic and ritual elements that have been borrowed and stolen from various cultures and spiritualist movements for the last thousand or 2000 years, sometimes older. There is so much history involved in the WHY.

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